[SOLVED] 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

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Old Nov 27th, 2007, 15:31
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[SOLVED] 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

Ok I have a site http://4egtv.net and on the Main Site (click the RISK button, "http://4egtv.net/newseal/" or "http://4egtv.net/newseal/go.htm") I have a very big problem. I'm okay with advanced CSS and using the Float attribute but now I'd like the header comment always on top, and the footer always on the bottom (even with scroll), How do I trap any other content, and keep it in the exact center. As you can see bottom and top content gets cut-off.

I'd welcome you help and opionion on the site.

/* Site now has fixed sections, and it keeps the text in the center. Its not to bad. */

Just for my sanity and server bandwith, company specific questions PM me. I'll answer in detail not in post-slur format.
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

Would this work?

Position the header and footer using (see IE6 position fixed workaround)
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 position: fixed;
Then put a margin-top and margin-bottom value on your content, equal to the height of the header and footer, respectively
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

Now why didn't I think of that.
I feel like an idiot.
Than maybe you can see the full style and tell me how bad it looks.

EGT is making a conscious decision to say We won't support IE. I guess its good to try tho.
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

I'll say it again: validate your code. This should always be the first step in solving a bug.

I recommend you abandon the idea of a fixed header/footer. Fixed positioning doesn't work in IE6; although there are hacks, they're pretty nasty.

Your "performance test" page is just bonkers.

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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

I agree with Mike, esp about the performance page

An alternative is put a fixed height on your content and use
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

now thats the idea with using javascript. If you went to the website and got to the page, I calculate your total browsers space. I guess I'll do that then. Thanks.

I hope that won't be a problem.


As for the performance page, I thought it was a good idea but Vista protects all that info, as well as IE7 protects it to. Any suggestions to validate my jscript?
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

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now thats the idea with using javascript. If you went to the website and got to the page, I calculate your total browsers space. I guess I'll do that then. Thanks.

I hope that won't be a problem.


As for the performance page, I thought it was a good idea but Vista protects all that info, as well as IE7 protects it to. Any suggestions to validate my jscript?
*sigh*

The problem with your performance page is that it's a stupid idea. The same goes for using scripting to determine the browser viewport size: it's too complicated.

There is no javascript "validator", although various programs will warn you of errors (try Firefox!). Note also that jscript is different from javascript.

By "validate your code", I mean validate your (x)html and validate your css.

Ease up on the control-freakery! Why can't you just design a straightforward website? You seem to be hell-bent on making weird, pointless, annoying, over-complicated designs.

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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

The point is, I want to express that EGT is pushing towards new technology, new standards, and limitless performance. The javascript works, It just depends on how I use it.

I know jscript is different than javascript, I just use jscript as an abbreviation of javascript.

As for, and I quote
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Ease up on the control-freakery! Why can't you just design a straightforward website? You seem to be hell-bent on making weird, pointless, annoying, over-complicated designs.
Ah, its not challenging and a basic normal desgn seems (to me, and users looking for something better)
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

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The point is, I want to express that EGT is pushing towards new technology, new standards, and limitless performance. The javascript works, It just depends on how I use it.
"New technology, new standards, and limitless performance"?

Pull the other one -- it has bells on.

You're using impressive words; but after the bombast, your website still sucks.

What is the purpose of your website? Can you sum it up for me, in a simple sentence? Don't try to impress me; just tell me what you want to achieve.
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

I am going to try, but I can't help feeling I'm typing in sales.

EGTv site will give access to its consumers, new technology and implementations of new technology (such as Microsoft Surface with a EGT OS ) developed mostly from EGT itself. ....

Works in progress of course, but I feel pushed into a level of excellence I (or anyone) can perform at. 4EGTv.net needs to encompose hundreds of mini-pages and services, with a good look, but a consistent look.

EGT is also concerned at the lack of standards being moved to fit new years. I must still make a site for Dial-up, 800*600 screen, lack of javascript, lack of flash, people who lack logic or common sense. I feel the website development has become over complex because of these old standards.

I was working on building a ERP system with a company, we tried constraining to all these standards, IT killed the project. So we had to make a new standard for an excellent product. (I might add)


Hope that helps, or it just made you perplexed, or you wondering when I'll just go away... lol
As for the simple sentence, it couldn't be done. Sad but true.

UPDATED the site! Take a look!
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

You're getting the hang of this, but I asked for one sentence. Cut the marketing spiel, and tell me why you are doing this.

You must learn to focus on what's relevant. I didn't ask to hear your opinions about the state of standards, or your thoughts about your design process. I asked for a summary of your website's purpose.

Let me offer you a suggstion:
  • EGTv will make you (TheSealPortalTeam) money by selling technology products, such as Microsoft Surface.
Is that what you're doing?

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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

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Not just that their's services like, EGT Licensing (licenses applications), EGT Network (grouping of people taking pushing standards) ... Its not just simple transactions of buying and selling.
Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

Tell me, what is your role in all this? Is EGT an existing company, or are you starting it up?

With EGT licensing, do you plan to make money by licensing your technology? What kind of technology is it? An operating system?

What is the purpose of EGT Network? What do you get out of it?

What does the initialism "EGT" stand for? Surely not "Extra Good"?
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

Off Topic, so I removed it.
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

Right...

The more I read about this, the more convinced I become that you're simply making it all up. I think you're feeding me a fantasy. It just doesn't sound credible.

I think you're a techy hobbyist with no clear idea what your site's purpose is, so you answer "everything" or "taking over the world".

Forgive me if I've maligned you unfairly; but in any case, you need to work on your credibility. If you feed investors the same pitch you just fed me, then they will run a mile.

Good luck with whatever it is you're trying to achieve.
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Re: 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

Thats just the way I slur things, defiantly not an approach to an investor. Plus I'm answering you while trying to keep a company running.
I guess in one way, I'm jumping a head of my self. Planning for future expansion. As of now, the handful of services ready for deployment, are EGT Passport, EGT Licensing, and a selection of EGT Applications. EGT passport in a quick view, is how one person logs on to the 4EGTv website and accesses their services.
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Re: [SOLVED] 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

That's cool; it's good to plan big.

Just bear in mind that your website should be focused on what you offer now. Users don't want to know about your plans to conquer the world.

Perhaps you should also think about your branding. Sure, if EGT conquers the world, then the brand will work. But until then, it's a pretty weird brand name.

Have you considered segmenting your brand? In terms of user appeal, a name like EGT is rubbish. Maybe EGT can be your over-arching company, but that doesn't mean your brands should all be "EGT this" and "EGT that".

To give you a real-world example: Unilever is a large multinational company that sells home and personal care products. None of their brands are called "Unilever soap" or "Unilever deodorant"; they are called "Persil" and "Lynx".
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Re: [SOLVED] 4EGTv.net Main site, still need help.

Your right in that respect. EGT Licensing, may stay the same name. I'm not a 'name' expert, but I'll take your advice. As for EGT Passport and EGT related products, I'm still deciding on a name.
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