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Old Sep 25th, 2007, 23:58
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I don't get this one:

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O. 508 Standards, Section 1194.22, (o) A method shall be provided that permits users to skip repetitive navigation links.
  • Rule: (o).1 - All pages are required to contain a bookmark link to skip navigation that has the specified text in either the link text or the 'title' attribute value.
    Skip Navigation Text:
    • Note: This rule has not been selected to be verified for this checkpoint.

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Re: Cynthia

Would this be the access keys?
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Who's Cynthia?
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Re: Cynthia

I think its a requirement to have accesibility link to skip to page content.

so from a screen readers point of view it would read:
page title
skip to content
navigation
content
footer
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Re: Cynthia

I understand that - still doesnt answer my question
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I understand that - still doesnt answer my question
oh, it's / she's the name of a validation tool for 508

http://www.cynthiasays.com/

would have been better if they put a little hottie on the image thou
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Oooooo thanks
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Re: Cynthia

Thy this article from Alistapart - Accesskeys: Unlocking Hidden Navigation
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Re: Cynthia

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I think its a requirement to have accesibility link to skip to page content.

so from a screen readers point of view it would read:
page title
skip to content
navigation
content
footer
How would i do this
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Must of skipped over that
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Re: Cynthia

you will also need to have a link at the top of your site to skip to content.

i.e.

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.accessibility{ display:none; overflow:hidden;}

html
<html>
<head>
<body><div class="accessibility"><a href="#content" title="skip to page content" accesskey="a">link to content</div>
<div class="header>other code for header etc</div>
<div class="accessibility"><a name="content" title="page content">main content</div>
<div class="content">other code for content etc</div>

and other code
notice how it it the first item that the screen reader see's.

You will need to read the standard to get the correct wording for the title tag for it to comply, but that is the gist of it.

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Re: Cynthia

Never use display: none; to hide accessibility text as a large majority of screen readers to not display this text either then. Use text-indent:-9999px;

Also I would always put skip links as the first element in a document that way as soon as you hit tab the skip links will be selected. The whole point of them is to make it easier for people not using conventional software packages or for people with some kind of disability to navigate your site quicker so the sooner you give them these options the better.

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Never use display: none; to hide accessibility text as a large majority of screen readers to not display this text either then. Use text-indent:-9999px;

Pete.
I never knew that, good to know. Thanks Pete.

But without the display: none; won't the browser assign some "space" to the div, even though the text is off screen?
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But without the display: none; won't the browser assign some "space" to the div, even though the text is off screen?
You can use absolute positioning instead. This removes the element completely from the visual formatting "flow"; it is positioned independently (in its own "layer"):

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ul#skipLinks {
position:absolute;
top: -100em;
z-index: 2;
}
...and then override this by moving the links back into view when they receive focus. This way, people using a visual browser can still use them as keyboard navigation (although most won't realise they exist, of course). You need to make sure they stand out against the background after positioning. Here's my code:

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ul.skipLinks a:focus {
    position: absolute;
    top: 5.5em;
    color: black;
    background: yellow;
    border: 2px solid red;
    font-size: 200%;
    padding: 0.5em;
}
Who knows? It might help some users of visual browsers, especially if you explain this feature somewhere on your site.

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Re: Cynthia

I don't think I will bother for my one site
as it's just a portfolio
my others sites i will though
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