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pokey01nicki · #1 (**permalink**) Apr 8th, 2005, 16:03

I have a new website project that is going to very lengthy. I need to figure out how to design a navigation that has like a master page, I mean some how designed that all I have to do to add a link or sub-menu is to change it in a Master page, so that I don't have to go to each html page and make the change? Please tell me this is possible?
-Nicole

benbacardi · #2 (**permalink**) Apr 8th, 2005, 18:16

its possible using server-side scripting languages like ASP and PHP, but not easy with HTML or XHTML, unless you do it using Javascript, and that in itself is not recommended because not all users have javascript enabled within their browsers, and that means they would not be able to navigate your site.

It could be done using inline frames or ordinary frames but that isnt recommended either because not all browsers support/display frames in the same way

Rob · #3 (**permalink**) Apr 8th, 2005, 18:21

I beg to differ....

Lots of hosts support server side includes and it is not only limited to ASP, PHP etc...

You can do SSI with normal HTML documents by giving them the SHTM extension.

Many hosts support this, but as always, check with your first.

Webforumz Staff · #4 (**permalink**) Apr 8th, 2005, 19:33

Yep, SSI is probably your answer and it's very easy to use.

There's many examples on the web, here's one: http://www.vortex-webdesign.com/help/intro_ssi.htm

benbacardi · #5 (**permalink**) Apr 9th, 2005, 18:38

i stand corrected!

JohnMitch · #6 (**permalink**) Apr 10th, 2005, 03:38

Yeah SSI is always there when you need it. I have a question that goes along with this (in a wierd sort of way). If you put your links on a seperate page then use a language to take them off of that page and create links willl google still spider the links? For example if you had a text file and you just put the text of the links would the links still work like a regular link? I figured it would but I am not very knowledgable with this sort of thing.

Rob · #7 (**permalink**) Apr 10th, 2005, 07:50

Can you explain a little better?

Psuedo code perhaps?

pokey01nicki · #8 (**permalink**) Apr 10th, 2005, 14:46

I was looking into PHP but I think that is still a bit advaced for me. I will definetely check into SSI. Thanks! :D

Webforumz Staff · #9 (**permalink**) Apr 11th, 2005, 00:44

John,

When you include the contents of one file in another the spiders see the final file in the same way as the browser does. It's not aware that the final file was built out of parts.

JohnMitch · #10 (**permalink**) Apr 11th, 2005, 00:49

Alright, cool. Thanks again Cat. Oh Rob, I think you read too much into it, I was just looking for that. haha, I am still not advanced enough yet to have such advanced questions

.

kpm547 · #11 (**permalink**) Apr 13th, 2005, 20:27

The following code uses SSI

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<html>
<body>






blah, blah, blah

</body>
</html>

In the navbar file, just include the part of html that contains the navbar. It's like you just cut the navbar code out of the main page, stuck in navbar.htm and then inserted it in any file you want.

Works really slick.

Hope that helps.

Webforumz Staff · #12 (**permalink**) Apr 15th, 2005, 06:51

To clarify kpm547's sample: You generally have to name the page using SSI with a .shtml or .shtm extension so the web server knows to process it for SSI directives (or .asp if you using ASP). The included files can have any extension (.htm .html .txt .asp etc) though.

kpm547 · #13 (**permalink**) Apr 15th, 2005, 14:27

Thanks for clarifying that Catalyst. You always forget something.

benbacardi · #14 (**permalink**) Apr 15th, 2005, 16:15

so do all servers accept .shtml etc?

Webforumz Staff · #15 (**permalink**) Apr 15th, 2005, 21:24

If they are configured to.... then yes.

But you can also configure servers to process ANY document for SSI.

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