Better Google ranking

onlineseo · Mar 4th, 2008, 18:01

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Originally Posted by compassue

Hi everyone, i'm new here and looking for some help on improving google ranking.

The site is http://craigtaraholiday.com

I know it's a bit of a niche market but i'd have thought that would make things a little easier?

I'm really trying to target a few specific phrases, craig tara caravans, craig tara caravan to rent (not sure if this should be rent, let or hire) and maybe even craig tara itself.

I'd really appreciate ank kind of suggestions.

Thanks.

I should also add, as a way of getting links in to site, i've registered with numerous online classifieds.

Since your website is a new one, you should try submitting to online web directories which do not list websites on the basis of their PAGE RANK.

Since your page rank is 0 your link will get deeply embedded into any online directory.

Try searching for directories by typing "holiday directory submit link" or "holiday directory add link".

I am sure you will see plenty of relevant directories where you can submit your website.

You should also make sure to include your targeted keyword within the TITLE of your ANCHOR link

stove · Mar 9th, 2008, 09:24

If you edit your content frequently google will spider your site more often and give your more accurate results for your changes.

Google ranking is affected by page ranking, and you can improve these via voting. There is a screeny here on what to do.
http://www.web-design-doncaster.com/...ign.php?web=16

hope it helps a bit.

dstudiobali · Mar 12th, 2008, 15:59

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Originally Posted by spinal007

Someone searching for your company name already knows who you are - this is not what SEO is about.

You want to rank well for phrases like caravan holidays, holiday caravan to rent, holiday caravan hire, etc. At the moment, all the emphasis of you site goes to 'Craig Tara', in the begining of your title., h1 and h2. Personally, if I was looking to hire I caravan, I wouldn't search for those words... I hope you see my point.

Take a look at this article I wrote last year, specially the "One Phrase Strategy" section, it might help you a lot...

Thanks for the explanation. I need more explanation like this.

spinal007 · Mar 12th, 2008, 16:33

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Originally Posted by dstudiobali

Thanks for the explanation. I need more explanation like this.

Well, try these:
Basic Search Engine Optimisation Advice :: Readme
http://creativecoding.webforumz.com/...quick-list.php

dstudiobali · Mar 12th, 2008, 17:01

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Originally Posted by spinal007

Well, try these:
Basic Search Engine Optimisation Advice :: Readme
http://creativecoding.webforumz.com/...quick-list.php

Thanks Spinal for your quick reply

bennyboy7 · Mar 21st, 2008, 18:00

Format
Hi, just read:

http://creativecoding.webforumz.com/...quick-list.php

Im not sure what this means with the + (3rd one down) isnt it the same as the 2nd one ?

To illustrate this, I´ll just use the phrase "professional web design":

/ProfessionalWebDesign/ - ambiguous words (webdesign, web design, sign)
/Professional-Web-Design/ - no ambiguity, words are separated
/Professional+Web+Design/ - no ambiguity, words separated with URL equivalent of space. This is a perfect match.

Im sure it really simple and Im having a blond moment!

spinal007 · Mar 21st, 2008, 18:56

/ProfessionalWebDesign/ - ambiguous words (webdesign, web design, sign)
The spider reads and tries to guess where the words are in the phrase.
possible words (from the top of my head) in professionalwebdesign: pro, profess, sion, ion, web, sign, design, etc.

/Professional-Web-Design/ - no ambiguity, words are separated
This is better. You are showing the spider where the words start and end, but it's still not perfect because you have no specified which are hyphenated words.
ie.: the phrase "professional-web-design" could have 3 words "professional and web and design" or 2 words "professional and web-design"

/Professional+Web+Design/ - no ambiguity, words separated with URL equivalent of space.
This is a perfect match. That is because you clearly separate words and they won't get mixed up with hyphenated words.

bennyboy7 · Mar 21st, 2008, 19:28

When you say seperated with + signs or spaces?

I only say this becuase I want to optimise my site for 'website design weston super mare, somerset'

I currently have my title :
Weston-Super-Mare website design - Affordable web, graphic design, print, SEO

Do you think:
Affordable website, graphic design, print, seo, Somerset, Weston-Super-Mare

is better, im still trying to work out the difference between + - on the above?

nextgen · Mar 21st, 2008, 20:24

This topic always interests me, i am using a php based PHP-Nuke cms and getting rankings and W3C compliance always factor in with me. It is a huge tasks to try to make it compliant and to get better rankings. Has anyone tried to touch on this yet for rankings ?

spinal007 · Mar 22nd, 2008, 00:44

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Originally Posted by bennyboy7

When you say seperated with + signs or spaces?

I only say this becuase I want to optimise my site for 'website design weston super mare, somerset'

I currently have my title :
Weston-Super-Mare website design - Affordable web, graphic design, print, SEO

Do you think:
Affordable website, graphic design, print, seo, Somerset, Weston-Super-Mare

is better, im still trying to work out the difference between + - on the above?

That discussion was about keywords in URLs and what to use instead of spaces. In titles, descriptions, content, etc... just use normal English. Put spaces and hyphens where spaces and hyphens should be.

bennyboy7 · Mar 22nd, 2008, 07:14

Oh Right, Sorry me being stupid! Thanks for clearing that up!

pctank · Mar 22nd, 2008, 19:46

Top Things Google Looks For:

1. Keywords used in link text
2. Keywords used in the title of your Web pages
3. Keywords used in headings
4. The PageRank (PR) of your web pages
5. Web pages that contain at least 200 words of relevant text content.
6. How often the content on your site is updated.
7. How fast you are obtaining new links (too many links too fast is a bad thing)
8. How old the site is

myownfreeweb · Mar 22nd, 2008, 23:06

I think that is a good list pctank, unfortunately, sometimes Google can confuse the heck out of me. For example, #5 on your list. Everyone talks and writes about content, but sometimes I see sites with little or no content get good search rankings, while others with really good content get poor rankings. It's a shot in the dark situation. Keep changing until you get the right mix. I've seen some sites with no more than a "welcome to the best sites making widgets on the web" get top rankings for widgets, because they have all their keywords in their links, but no content. On the other hand (for example) sites that go into the history and making of widgets get poor rankings. It's a tough one.

spinal007 · Mar 23rd, 2008, 15:36

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Originally Posted by pctank

Top Things Google Looks For:

1. Keywords used in link text
2. Keywords used in the title of your Web pages
3. Keywords used in headings
4. The PageRank (PR) of your web pages
5. Web pages that contain at least 200 words of relevant text content.
6. How often the content on your site is updated.
7. How fast you are obtaining new links (too many links too fast is a bad thing)
8. How old the site is

This is a typical case of not looking at the bigger picture. Google's engine isn't that simplistic that it will look for specific things in specific places. To really succeed in SEO you need to take a step back and understand the abstract thoughts behind SEs and what they want. You don't need a long list - you can sum it up as:

Search engines want content and reliability

1. Content = Keywords and context
1.A. Keywords = Of course, you need to have the content search engines look for, but to stand out from the crowd you have to use your keywords carefully. The key is prominence/density and it is not confined to a page or a certain tag, which brings us to context...

1.B. Context = Keywords alone mean nothing - SEs will look for the keywords within a context. If you want high rankings for a certain phrase you need to optimize the phrase throughout your website. The SE is not just looking for one page that has keywords on it, it is looking for a site that it believes has a good quantity of valuable information regarding the subject of the search phrase.

2. Reliability = Quality & trustworthiness
2.A. Quality = Achieved by covering providing all round honest and relavent information about your target keyphrase. You need the content to back up your keywords or they are considered junk and irrelevant.

2.B. Trustworthiness = Links, traffic/click-through's, age, etc. This is pretty obvious....

Take the concepts above and apply it to everything you do in SEO - then you will have long lasting results.

pctank · Mar 23rd, 2008, 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by spinal007

This is a typical case of not looking at the bigger picture. Google's engine isn't that simplistic that it will look for specific things in specific places. To really succeed in SEO you need to take a step back and understand the abstract thoughts behind SEs and what they want. You don't need a long list - you can sum it up as:

Search engines want content and reliability

1. Content = Keywords and context
1.A. Keywords = Of course, you need to have the content search engines look for, but to stand out from the crowd you have to use your keywords carefully. The key is prominence/density and it is not confined to a page or a certain tag, which brings us to context...

1.B. Context = Keywords alone mean nothing - SEs will look for the keywords within a context. If you want high rankings for a certain phrase you need to optimize the phrase throughout your website. The SE is not just looking for one page that has keywords on it, it is looking for a site that it believes has a good quantity of valuable information regarding the subject of the search phrase.

2. Reliability = Quality & trustworthiness
2.A. Quality = Achieved by covering providing all round honest and relavent information about your target keyphrase. You need the content to back up your keywords or they are considered junk and irrelevant.

2.B. Trustworthiness = Links, traffic/click-through's, age, etc. This is pretty obvious....

Take the concepts above and apply it to everything you do in SEO - then you will have long lasting results.

Well this is so true, you have summed every pretty much everything this book is saying to apply to your site!
Im still in my learning pants but i will get there!