javascript and xhtml validation

[nate2099]

I have a page that has some Javascript in it. It all works fine in IE, but falls apart in Firefox and Netscape, UNLESS I remove the Doctype declaration(in which case IE has trouble..)

Obviously this page dosen't validate to XHTML 1.1 standards. Is it possible to store the javascript in a seperate file and call it from the xhtml? And will this mean that yes, the page may now validate, but will most likely still fall apart in browsers other than IE??

The pages are
http://www3.webng.com/tcnls/av2.html with the doctype dec, and
http://www3.webng.com/tcnls/av3.html without

Thanks for your help,

Nathan.

[karinne]

Hmmm ... actually ... your site falls apart in IE6. What does the JS do? I don't see anything on there that can't be achieve with CSS/HTML only!?

Oh and yes you "should" be putting your JS in a separate file. Just link to it with

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<script src="somescript.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

[nate2099]

Sorry, I should have explained that better. The "creation" link on the bottom is the one that activates the javascript. What exactly does it do in IE6?? I've tested it on IE7 and IE5 and it seems ok, so long as the doctype is declared..

Thanks,

Nathan.

[Blake121]

Well this is what happened to me. (I'm usuing IE6)

the first one, with the doctype, worked fine except that when you click the "creation" link brown smudges appear everywhere.

When you visit the other page the table drops down below the main content and the red highlight doesn't expand. Looking bad, except when the "creation" link is clicked lots of fireworks appear, which I guess means its working.

Also while i'm at it can I say the navagation links in the footer are really hard to read. You should give them more colour.

Hope this helped

-Blake-
www.theloop.org.uk

[Ryan Fait]

Falls apart in Safari with both links. It's not a problem of browser issues, it's just shoddy code...

[craig]

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<BGSOUND id=BGSOUND_ID src="" loop="-1">

Runs for the hills...

[Ryan Fait]

Lol. Tis all too true.

[spinal007]

Originally Posted by craig

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<BGSOUND id=BGSOUND_ID src="" loop="-1">

Runs for the hills...

LOL, reminds me of me!

I know you didn't ask for a critique but I can't help this one:
- Sound on a webpage is bad
- Background sound is bad
- Sound on mouse over is bad
- A page that requires the Apple Quicktime plugin is bad
- Using Javascript to play sound is non-sense.
Validation is the LAST of your worries. I hate flash, but in your case I think I'll open an exception.

Use flash to do it properly and put yourself out of your misery.

[nate2099]

Thanks for your replies.
Constructive criticism is always welcome!
This page site is basically just a test page that I use for testing and playing before I post anything to the real site. I'll take your advice and can the sound entirely, and I think the whole fireworks thing looks kind of corny anyway.
For the falling apart in safari, could I get you to check www.tcnls.com/services.html and see if that does the same thing?

Thanks,

Nathan.

[Ryan Fait]

Don't see any JavaScript effects at all. The layout is good, though, if that's what you mean.