Use this language?

alexgeek

I never really see this extension about.
should I bother learning it?
ASP would be a lot more useful I'm guessing?

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alexgeek

Also, what about coldfusion? I here you have to pay for it don't you?

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karinne

What extension are you talking about!!?

I wouldn't bother with CF. Stick with PHP and you'll be fine. .NET is also worth knowing if you plan to get a job somewhere.

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alexgeek

sorry was on about jsp
but i'll learn asp (Y)

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pa007

You could learn them but php and asp are more popular. There are a load of different languages you could use but you'd be better off trying to learn one very well. Knowing a little bit about all of them won't hurt you but don't invest too much time into learning them.

Pete.

alexgeek

thanks

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snow

I have had jobs using both these technologies and personally I find J2EE (the Java web tech.s) much more useful than ASP.net... but it depends what you want to do? I'll give an outline of the main benefits of the technologies, as I see them, so that you can make up your own mind.

(for the sake of completeness, I'm adding Ruby-on-Rails into the mix. It's a beautiful little web. dev. technology that has a dedicated following.)


Here are some of the main points:
Jobs as a professional in J2EE and ASP.net are generally abundant and are fairly well paid.

In terms of power and performance I'd rate them: J2EE, ASP.net, Ruby-On-Rails then PHP. (Off topic question for anyone who knows: How easy & well supported is following an MVC architecture on PHP?).

Ease of learning: ASP.net, PHP, Ruby-on-Rails then J2EE. Unless you have some background in Java - web dev. with J2EE would pretty much be a nightmare. In contrast, ASP.net is a breeze to use - the tools that Microsoft provide to develop it tend to make life very easy.

By average speed of development: ASP.net, PHP, RoR then J2EE. (of course, this is highly dependent on what you're building)

All the technologies are free to develop with.

Cost of hosting: PHP, then RoR and J2EE, then ASP.net; .net is just abysmal in this respect - expect to pay a premium for a server which both runs Windows and contains the relevant software.


Not exactly an in-depth analysis, but hopefully useful for helping you make up your mind! I'd be happy to waffle on longer if you wanted to know any more...

All the best,
Snow

pa007

Remember RoR is framework written in Ruby and not a language in itself though admittedly it is a powerful one.


Pete.

alexgeek

Strange, I find php incredibly easy and ASP quite hard.

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snow

So's J2EE - I've taken to calling all the web stuff, 'web technologies' so I don't have to keep differentiating in my head!


Are you using ASP or ASP.net? I once had a look at ASP and decided it wasn't worth the effort (personal opinion of course!). Also, are you using their IDE, Visual Studio Express, or somesuch I think it was called?

alexgeek

ASP I don't really know the difference..

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snow

Hmm, I don't really know what ASP is like, as I said, I haven't done any...

ASP.net is the newer technology anyway, and with the IDE, it's just one of the most intuitive techs I've ever used (So much can be done graphically or with wizards, and not in a shoddy, 'I wish I'd hand-coded this' way either).

Knowing VB or C# is pretty essential, although I'm sure it would be easy enough to pick up all you need them for when dev'ing.

alexgeek

i've done a few C# tuts.
I'll have a bash at asp.net now

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alexgeek

hmm it's quite similiar to javascript

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pa007

They're all quite similar really. All programming languages work on similar principles and you if understand these principles its amazing how much easier things are.

Pete.

alexgeek

I don't like it to be honest.
I think I'm gunna stick with php until I master it.

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Daniel

php is ok till you get stuck

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alexgeek

wouldn't that apply to any language?

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