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Old Apr 20th, 2007, 21:54
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Hi, I'm Milly and I'm new to website design. I am tring to make a website for a small local charity but I'm having some trouble!

I've learned HTML and CSS using internet tutorials etc, but my knowledge is full of holes. I've learned everything with accessibility standards in mind, I don't expect many visitors but I think it is important that websites are accessible to as many people as possible.I've done a site (written using notebook) but things look different in Firefox & IE6 (I've stuck with IE6 because I had some computer problems when I loaded IE7 but i suppose I should upgrade to see what it looks like in IE7 as most people will probably use that!).

In particular some of the pictures don't show up in IE6. Can anyone tell me why and does it affect IE7 as well? Also in Firefox some of my background colors go off sideways for miles!

The site is at www.northwiltsholidayclub.org.uk if anyone wants a look, it needs serious tidying up I know but it's taken ages to get this far and I promised to get something online by now. I have only tested it in Firefox & IE6 so far (and as I said it doesn't really work in either!)

Please be kind, I am totally new to this. We were offered help with a website from an IT person but he couldn't do it after all so I've had a steep learning curve - and I am the wrong side of 35 as well! I am sure my code is full of errors and unnecessary bits. Any tips for making all of this abit easier would be gratefully received.
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Old Apr 20th, 2007, 22:09
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AHHH! THE HORROR! Ok, its not as bad as you make it out to be in your post, so I thought i'd throw some sarcasm in mine . Yes your coding needs work. But your about 10000000 times better off than anyone else I ever saw with a first website as far as coding goes. At least you typed yours in and understand a lot. But I am going to post your CSS here so that our experts can go through it faster.

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/*divs available*/
#all
 #top
  #mininav
 #maindiv
  #mainnav
  #content
   #topcontent
   #intro .section
.section
  #rightcol
   #frlinks
    #donate, #hungryel, #yellowmoon, #buyat, #evclick, #edcm
 #footer
  #access
 
 

/*code for positioning*/
#all {
width:100%;
min-width:800px;
position:relative;
}
#top, #maindiv {
width:100%;
min-width:800px;
position:relative;
display:block;
}
 
#top img {
float:left;
width:560px;
margin:0 auto 0 0;
}
#mininav {
position:relative;
float:right;
width:12em;
}

#mainnav {
clear:both;
}
#maindiv {
clear:both;
margin:auto;
}
#maindiv #rightcol {
width:13em;
position:relative;
display:inline;
float:right;
margin:0 0 0 auto;
}
#rightcol #frlinks {
position:relative;
display:inline;
float:right;
margin:0 auto;
padding:0.5em;
width:12em;
background-color:green;
}
#edcm {
clear:right;
float:right;
}
#maindiv #content {
position:relative;
margin:0 14em 0 0;
width:auto;
display:inline;
}
 
 
 
 
#footer {
position:relative;
margin:1em 0;
clear:both;
padding:1em 1em 2em 1em;
}
#access {
width:20em;
border:2px black solid;
float:right;
clear:both;
}
#footer ul {
clear:both;
text-align:center;
padding:1em;
background-color:#cccccc;
font-weight:bold;
}
 
 
/*colour fonts etc*/

#top ul a, #content, #footer {
font-family:verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}

#mininav {
background-color:#ffffcc;
border:2px red dashed;
padding:0.2em;
}
#mininav a:hover {
color:red;
}

#mainnav ul {
margin:0;
list-style-type:none;
text-align:center;
padding:1em 0;
}

#mainnav ul a {
float:left;
width:7.5em;
text-decoration:none;
text-align:center;
font-weight:bold;
font-size:110%;
font-family:sans-serif;
color:white;
background-color:red;
padding:2px;
border:6px blue groove;
margin:2px;
}

#mainnav li {
display:inline;
list-style-type:none;
}
 
#mainnav a:hover {
background-color:#33ff66;
color:black;
}
 
 

#donate, #yellowmoon, #hungryel, #buyat, #rightcol #frlinks #evclick, #edcm {
width:11em;
border:2px blue solid;
padding:0.5em;
font-family:georgia, serif;
font-size:90%;
text-decoration:none;
margin-right:0;
}
#rightcol p {
width:11em;
}
#donate a, #yellowmoon a, #hungryel a, #buyat a, #evclick a {
text-decoration:none;
display:block;
}
#buyat {
background-color:#FF0018;
}
 
#buyat strong {
color:#FF0018;
}

#hungryel {
background-color:#0099f0;
}
#hungryel strong {
color:#0099f0;
}

#yellowmoon img {
background-color:white;
}
#yellowmoon {
background-color:#FFCE21;
}
#yellowmoon strong {
color:#FFCE21;
}
#evclick {
background-color:#0099FF;
}
#evclick strong {
color:#0099FF;
}
#footer ul {
text-align:center;
}
#footer li {
display:inline;
padding:2em;
}
 
 
 
#maindiv #frlinks {
width:11em;
padding:0.5em;
}
 

#frlinks img {
clear:both;
border:0;
margin:0.2em;
}
#frlinks p {
margin:0;
padding:0.3em;
position:relative;
background-color:white;
font-size:90%;
}
 
#content .section {
position:relative;
width:auto;
border-color:red blue green orange;
border-width:0.7em;
border-style:solid;
margin:0 14em 0 0;
padding:1em;
background-color:white;
}
 
h1 {
color:blue;
padding:0.5em;
}
h2 {
color:purple;
}

#access {
padding:0.2em 0.5em;
font-size:90%;
background-color:white;
}
#access img {
margin:0.2em 0
}

#edcm {
background-color:white;
}
 

#all {
background-color:yellow;
}
#topcontent {
margin:0 auto;
padding:05.em;
}
#content {
margin:0 auto;
padding:05.em;
}
 
 
.section p {
width:auto;
padding:1em;
}
#intro p {
position:relative;
width:auto;
padding:1em;
margin:0 14em 0 0;
background-color:white;
border:2px black solid;
}
.section {
position:relative;
clear:left;
}
.section #mission {
width:auto;
margin:auto;
padding:2em;
background-color:#ccccff;
border:2px double red;
}
.section #mission h4, .section #mission p {
display:inline;
font-weight;bold;
}
.section #mission h4 {
color:blue;
}
h3 {
padding:0;
text-align:center;
}
.auction {
clear:left;
}

.auction p img {
float:left;
clear:left;
}
.activity {
font-weight:bold;
}
#longleat img, #sunshineclowns img, #cotswoldfarmpark img, #bowood img {
float:left;
margin-right:1em;
}
.caption {
fant-weight:bold;
font-size:80%
}
That is the style sheet.
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Old Apr 21st, 2007, 00:45
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Re: Learning website skills for charity website

Thanks for the encouragement.
I just had another look at my site using Firefox and the external links didn't work! They did in IE6 though. What's going on there? I ended up uploading the files a couple of times into various places because I don't know what I'm doing (my hosting situation needs sorting out too but one thing at a time) but the links were the same in all the uploaded files.

By the way, anyone looking at my CSS file should bear in mind that although I tried to start off being organised it went abit pear-shaped, there may be surplus divs and rearranged HTML. Sorry!
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Re: Learning website skills for charity website

Welcome, Milly.... You might want to post in the Critique forum, if you haven't already. And don't worry...it is a great place to get an honest review of your work. They frequently offer suggestions and ideas for improvement.
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Re: Learning website skills for charity website

Hi, welcome to the forums. Post up in another forum if you haven't already, you'll get more responses that way. Just had a quick look at your code and first thing i noticed is that your self closing tags (such as img) aren't quite right. They need a space before the closing slash. so it would be <img src="pic.gif" />

Hope you like it here.
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Re: Learning website skills for charity website

welcome to the forums! Im not experienced enough to go through and solve the CSS/links/accesibility problems as I am having similar ones! Will post if I find any answers.
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Old Apr 26th, 2007, 09:17
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Milly, the main problem I see with your website is your choice of colour and lay out. It is rather harsh on the eye. Try to mellow your colour pallet somewhat. A Good visual approach, when you are starting, is to go white b/g and use colourful images in a more subtle way. Good luck.
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Good looking for beginner... i have ie6 sp2 and i believe the double borders and alternate colored borders are a bit non-pleasing to the eye.
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Welcome To WebForumz! i like to see people doing charity work !i like you all ready

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