a changed url in frame nav?

[Mace]

Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to have a changed url in pages that use frame nav? For example: The websites url is www.site.com/index.html. Normally, in frame navigation, it stay's that url when you click a link. Is there a way to make it so that it would change to something like www.site.com/index.html#games?

[alexgeek]

I think so. (Even though I and no one else here will support frames).
okay so you are on site.com/index.html
and you link to
site.com/blog.html
I think
if you put this in the link:
<a href="blog.html#blog">
it will work.
sorry i can't test it, but seriously.. don't use frames

[Mace]

That did not work. Oh well, I didn't realy expect it to anyway. What exactly is bad about frames? Everyone here has been telling me not to use frames, and I'm curious as to why.

[alexgeek]

uhh let me get the list,
it's a really good one

[alexgeek]

here it is:

1. Some internet browsers don't support frames.
People using older versions of browser will have difficulty accessing your website. Not everyone updates their browsers or have the space on their PC to accommodate the latest versions. Although the numbers may be getting smaller, why would you want to turn away, say 10% to 15% of potential customers from your website?
2. Search engines don't like them.
Some of the more popular search engines, will not index your website if it is in frames. So if you are expecting a major portion of your website traffic coming from search engines, using frames would be almost suicidal for your business. Because of the website structure, search engines will find it hard to determine the URL for a frameset composed of 2 or 3 sections.
3. Visitors can't bookmark your website
Except for the homepage, someone who wants to bookmark any page of your website for further reference, will have a hard time doing so. The URL of every page will always be the same. Check out this sample and try to bookmark any page and see what happens. Not being able to bookmark properly may affect the way your visitor will return back to your website, if at all. And you want your potential customers coming back, don't you?
4. You can't print properly
With frames, it is very difficult to print what you see on a full view of the page online.
Depending on your browser and version, you will have to print each frame of the page individually. It can become very cumbersome for a visitor wanting to print information about your company. I know it bugs the heck out of me.

5. Users don't like frames
Studies have shown that the majority of online users do not like frames.
This in itself should be enough to not even consider frames.
Why would you deliberately turn visitors off from your website?
So there you have it. You now have 5 good reasons to tell your web designer why you do not want your website to be in frames. If your website is already in frames and you are wondering why it isn't performing as you had hoped, you might just have your answer.

[Mace]

Thanks for the advice.

[alexgeek]

Your welcome
and you should learn server side includes, they're alot easier ]
Just google php includes.
or try this nice tutorial:
http://www.tizag.com/phpT/include.php