Internet Explorer & objects... HELP!

[brittny]

I've looked everywhere I can think for a solution and haven't found anything so far. I hope you can help!

In my website there are boxes on the side that I want to have loaded from separate documents. I used to do them in iframes but I found out last week that those have been deprecated. So I changed all of my iframes to be objects type=text/html. My page now loads beautifully in firefox (of course) but when I load it in Internet Explorer the boxes show up as lines. Most unfortunate.

What can I do to make these boxes show up in IE like they do in firefox? I need to keep the content of these boxes separate so I can update the information for all sub-pages once rather than on each individual page. This information may change on a weekly basis and going through a page at a time would be incredibly time consuming.

Here is a link to the page: http://www.theronyx.com

The boxes on the right hand side are the ones that are causing difficulty. The code for the boxes is:

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<div class="calltoaction">
		<object data="calltoaction/call2act1.htm" type="text/html"></object>
		</div>
		<div class="calltoaction">
		<object data="calltoaction/call2act2.htm" type="text/html"></object>
		</div>
		<div class="calltoaction">
		<object data="calltoaction/call2act3.htm" type="text/html"></object>
		</div>

You can find it at line 43.

Thank you in advance for help!!

-Brittny

[Webforumz Staff]

Using server side includes would be best. Do a search in the forumz here for SSI to find examples and links for it.

[brittny]

Thanks, I will look into SSI further. But, is there a way to make it work the way I have it set up currently? If I can keep it with <object> tags like I already have it I'd rather do it that way. I really just want to know what it is that's making it so it won't render in IE. I'm surprised that more people aren't having the same problem as I am... do I just need to have a size set for the object boxes so they will render at whatever size I set? I've been avoiding doing so because I would rather have them be variable depending on what content is going in. But, I'd rather have a size set and have it non-variable, than have it render incorrectly in IE.

Sorry, I don't want to sound like I'm ungrateful for that input, because really I do think it will be useful. I've just been trying to learn a lot of this as I go, and my brain's starting to feel a fried. So, I will look into SSI, I just think that most of it will look like gibberish until I let everything I've already forced into my head process a little bit further, yaknow?

Thanks!
-Brittny

[brittny]

Just kidding.... I tried setting an absolute size value to the boxes and they just show up empty. So apparently the problem is that the object tag's data attribute isn't supported? I found a site that showed how to make objects of type image work in IE(http://code.jenseng.com/object/objectifier.html) using an XSL... is there a similar fix for objects type=text/html?

It looks like you're right SSI might be my best bet, but so far it's making my head spin.

who would have thought that getting a webpage up to standards would be made so difficult by the most commonly used browser?!

Thanks!
-Brittny

[Webforumz Staff]

I've never seen object tags used like that before. IE has it's own databinding methods but they're specific to IE.

Iframes with xhtml transitional doctype or SSI is the "normal" way of doing that without resorting to server side scripting.

[Smokie]

what makes you think iframes are depreciated?

I think there might be security issues with using objects in IE, that might be why they dont work, i dont know anyone who has used them in the way you've used them.

If you use SSI you just need one line of code:

above is for ASP, if you're using PHP it might be abit different but along the same lines...

[Webforumz Staff]

With PHP you simply do:

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include('file.html');

[brittny]

Thank you all soo much! I spent the remainder of the day yesterday and this morning figuring out SSI. The biggest problem was that for some reason apache isn't set up correctly on our testing server... but it is on our web hosting server. So our network admin had to come in and help me out. The website will be live later tonight with all it's new improvements.

I think there might be security issues with using objects in IE, that might be why they dont work, i dont know anyone who has used them in the way you've used them.

I guess I must just be really creative to use object tags in a completely new wrong way! :P Anyways, thanks again!

-Brittny
Web Master at www.theronyx.com