Need help embedding one page in another - Newbie

[yonderboy]

I used to be pretty decent with HTML my first couple of years of highschool...
havent touched it since. I got a new host which included a copy
of Netobjects Fusion 7 which Ive been using to get a site together. What I'd
like to do ideally is have my frontpage (index.html) have links along the left
for all pages contained within the site. So far so good... What Im having problems
with is adding a page (blog.html) embedded within index.html so that I can keep my mainpage untouched by blogger, but update it with the blog at the same time... Ive been trying to set up a new frame somewhere towards the center-bottom of the page, and tried
using a table as well.. No avail. Im stumped, and getting frustrated. If anyone
is willing to help, I'll gladly send take advice, or send you a copy of my files.

Source code can be viewed at yonderboy.info

Help out a reborn newbie, eh?

Thanks,
Yonderboy
webmaster@yonderboy.info

[gwx03]

It is possible to do so using tables. I've never done real HTML coding for complex stuff like tables and tend to use WYSIWYG editors ( which, sadly is not netobjects, but dreamweaver mx )

I do not get what you mean... Perhaps you can draw your conceptual design and put it on your site so I can understand more clearly what you mean?

There're a lot of things besides tables, such as IFRAMES, layers and such.

[gwx03]

ok; i went into my Win2K system which contains everything I need for web development ; flash, dreamweaver, photoshop, etc

I would strongly advise against using NetObjects, its for newbies. Myabe you could use something more powerful, like Macromedia Dreamweaver, or Adobe GoLive? GoLive should be easier than Dream, though to me, Dreamweaver is easier ( much ).

Ok; I did some layer coding in Dreamweaver and here's a show of how difficult it can become.

// start layer code
<div id="Layer1" style="position:absolute; left:281px; top:231px; width:186px; height:124px; z-index:1">


this is a text</p>


bold formatting</p>


italic format</p>


bold and italic</p>
<p align="center">centered bold and italic</p>
<p align="center"><font size="4" face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">size4
arial helvetica</font></p>
<p align="center"><font size="2" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">size 2
times new roman</font></p>
</div>
// end layer code

If NetObjects doesn't support layers, then I don't see how a newbie like you's going to code one yourself. I suggest that you buy something more powerful... or use a trial version of dreamweaver to check out its power. If you're interested in the trial, do visit the URL follows :

http://www.dreamweaver.com/cfusion/t...ct=dreamweaver

If layers is not what you want; you have flying frames. Since you're back into the Web Development Scene, here's it.. iframes!

The iframe made its debut way back when Microsoft released Internet Explorer 3.0. For a while, they only existed on Intranets and Microsoft-optimized sites. Now that they are fully supported by all subsequent Microsoft browsers ( including 3.0! ), Netscape 6, and Opera 5 (to name the biggies), iframes are ready for the real world.

What's so special about iframes again? Ah, yes, the flying thing. An iframe isn't bound to the side of a browser window. No way. Just like an image, a flying frame can sit anywhere on the page. It goes here it wants to go and calls in what it wants to call in. In every sense, a liberated frame for the new millennium.

If you wish to know how iframes work, I can post it here..

NOTE : one more thing about flying frames... you can make blah.html and let the floating frame display what is in blah.html. CoOl, huh?

[Webforumz Staff]

I would say that IFrames are your best bet here, although nothing would beat integrating the source of the page you're trying to include into your content, but of course that's a bit difficult in the circumstances.

Here's the Iframes Lowdown:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/...l?tw=authoring

Oh and welcome to the web design forums!

[yonderboy]

Iframes do sound interresting. Think I might read up on them and see how I could implement that idea. As a side note, I do have a copy of Dreamweaver MX... The entire macromedia studio MX package, actually. A friend of mine was mailed it for a conference, then never got to go, and sold it to me cheap awhile back. Haven't had time to poke much at it yet, but I plan on it. Loaded up Dreamweaver MX once and was a little daunted - seems like a lot going on at once. Might pay to look for a good online tutorial.

Hehe... Ive been comfortable with PCs for so long since I stopped challenging myself, this is a nice change. Good feeling to be learning something new again.

Yonderboy

[gwx03]

There is one downside of flying frames though... that is Netscape 4 and Opera 5 and below DO NOT view iframes at all. They just ignore iframes! On the other hand, with layers, its much better...why? Although many browsers recognize different tags for layers, you can use some Javascript to solve the problem!

- for IE: use the <div> tag.
- for Opera, the <div> tag also works. Yet, you have to tweak the values and adjust them manually
- for Netscape < 5.0 (N4.7X), use the <layer> tag.
- for Netscape > 5.0 (N6.0), use the <span> tag.


1) Get browser name

$Browser_Name = strtok($HTTP_USER_AGENT, "/");
$Browser_Version = strtok(" ");


2) Define browsers

//IE
if(ereg("MSIE", $HTTP_USER_AGENT))
{
$Browser_Name = "MSIE";
$Browser_Version = strtok("MSIE");
$Browser_Version = strtok(" ");
$Browser_Version = strtok(";");
}

// other browsers

3) use the right layer with the right browser:

if ($Browser_Name=="MSIE")
{
<div id="ie_layer" style="position:absolute; left:10px; top:85px;
width:745px; height:158px; z-index:1">
}
elseif ($Browser_Name=="Mozilla" & $Browser_Version < 5.0)
{
<layer id="nn4_layer" left="5" top="100" width="124" height="158"
z-index="2">
}
elseif ($Browser_Name=="Mozilla" & $Browser_Version >= 5.0)
{
<span id="nn6_layer" style="position:absolute; left:5px; top:100px;
width:124px; height:158px; z-index:2">
}