Web Development Space - Hosting

collinsc · Apr 13th, 2008, 11:02

Hi

I want to dabble a bit more in Web Development. I would like to potentially creat 3/4 sites.

What is the best and cheapest way I can do this?

Is there anyone out there offering a deal on hosting 3/4 sites? If so please reply or PM me with details (i.e. secured server?).

Thanks

WESH-UK · Apr 13th, 2008, 23:24

Hi Collinsc

This is very cheap and easy to do using something called "addon domains" where you could purchase 1 web hosting account (From us for example) then you can have up to 10 add-on domains (Websites) giving you 11 websites all under 1 account for around £4 a month and plenty of bandwidth if your just "dabbling"

Plus if you then want more space, databases or mailboxes then upgrading later is totally seemless :-)

If you have any questions, fireaway!

unitedcraig · Apr 13th, 2008, 23:41

I agree this would be the easiest way to do this.

If you ware planning on having quite a few sites though, make sure that you have enough bandwidth and disk space on the plan you choose

Hunter · Apr 14th, 2008, 14:40

But how can you know how much disk space and bandwidth you'll consume?

WESH-UK · Apr 14th, 2008, 14:50

You dont until you get going, but you can estimate it if you know how many visitors you get and how big your pages are etc, but if you have a brand new website and havent advertised it anywhere then you wont consume and bandwidth except for your own usage.

Disk space is fairly easy to calculate as you will know what your uploading and Cpanel shows you how much space and bandwidth your using, and emails you with warnings if you get close to your usage limits giving you time to upgrade the account.

collinsc · Apr 14th, 2008, 15:47

Thanks for the responses.

WESH - I'll take a look at your web site now.

collinsc · Apr 14th, 2008, 16:30

Hi

Ive taken a look at your site, still need some advice please.

ill list out my requirements if i may:

i want to create about 10 sites of average size, say 5 pages with max of 50 images.

Initially to test my skills, then maybe to create for clients.

my idea (tell me if its good or bad) is to get hosting through someone to provide me with enough web space for 10 sites. Then as i start creating for clients i buy domain names.

What do you think!?

Thanks

Aesir · Apr 14th, 2008, 17:57

Sorry for thread hijack but it seemed really silly to start another thread when my requirements are pretty much identicle.

I am also looking for pretty much exactly the same so I will be following this thread with interest. Initially I had been looking for US server hosting as I had heard UK server hosting can be overpriced.

However prices previously mentioned in the thread seem very reasonable.

I am going to need .NET support ASP.NET 1.1 and SQL Server 2005 minimum, can you recommend me anything?

collinsc · Apr 15th, 2008, 17:12

Hi Aesir
No problem. maybe we can help each other out! I have been advised http://www.midphase.com/index.php are good. But im not sure, im still investigating.

samducker · Apr 16th, 2008, 17:58

alot of hosts offer perks like unlimited databases, ftp accounts and mail accounts at no extra charge. I personally like a2b2.com and eukhost.com I've used them in the past. At the moment though I am enjoying my dedicated server though

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Rob · Apr 17th, 2008, 01:05

you have to be very very careful about hosts offering unlimited *anything* - deals like that always come with a trade-off and that tradeoff is almost always performance.

WESH happen to be the hosts of Webforumz.com - the only time we ever goes down is when [i] pull it down and the support is available 24/7 (should I ever need it) - Richard is also on my MSN if i need support.

I can count on one hand the number of times I actually needed support real bad (mostly my own wrong doing) and WESH make you feel like a person and not a number - you wont match that anywhere.

unitedcraig · Apr 17th, 2008, 07:49

I agree with Rob, at the end of the day having a host giving support when you need it most is one of the most important things to look for when choosing.

The point about "unlimited" hosting is also true, there has got to be a comprimise somewhere and as Rob said most of the time it is in the performance.

As for hosts personally i use Whym Host http://whymhost.co.uk/, their owner Dan is a member of this forum and on the rare occasions that i have needed support he has been available through email and messenger.

At the end of the day each member will have their own favourite host they will be promoting, the best thing to do is when you have got a list of a few names google them, read reviews ect, then make up your own mind.

samducker · Apr 17th, 2008, 17:38

I was thinking like unlimited databases and ftp accounts as this isn't overselling as a host does actually have unlimited of these. I do agree with staying away from huge diskspaces and bandwidth caps on shared hosting.

Rob · Apr 18th, 2008, 14:16

bandwidth caps are a good thing, not a bad thing. Unlimited bandwidth is the number one sign of a host to avoid IMO

WESH-UK · Apr 18th, 2008, 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by samducker

I was thinking like unlimited databases and ftp accounts as this isn't overselling as a host does actually have unlimited of these. I do agree with staying away from huge diskspaces and bandwidth caps on shared hosting.

Sam

Any idiot can offer hosting packages with "unlimited databases/FTP" but its actually providing them at a respectable pace thats the issue.

Anybody who offers "unlimited" of anything that has an impact on resources is obviously NOT paying attention to what their servers are doing, and is running their business in a "Reactive manner" where problems happen first, then they deal with it after..

This is not good business to offer the world to customers, then deal with their complaints when you cant provide it.

Any sensible host will know exactly what a server is capable of, calculate how much profit is required per server and balance that out per hosting package in a "pro-active manner" to avoid any of those problems right from day 1 and avoid any dissapointment at all.

ok, so you might not get some customers who all go elsehwere for the "unlimited everything" deals, but to be honest, they are the exact type of customers nobody would want anyway, the type who want everything for next to nothing, and raise all hell the minute they themselves screw something up.

Any good business brains knows that you cant sell what you cant provide or dont have, and if you dont plan and have structure, it wont work, but dont worry, experience will teach you these things as time goes by.

Watch "the apprentice" and see how those bunch of knuckle heads screw up the simplest of things because they dont know how much to sell, or how much they can provide, and/or cant provide what they are selling.

Every single resource you allocate to a hosting package, must be providable, without question or compromise, no arguments, no clause's in the TOS to "clarify" or counter-act what the sales pages say.

So, sure, we could all go around claiming to "offer" unlimited databases, but then it gets messy when you have a customer with 800 DB's all killing your server and you have to pull theplug on them, despite your website offering "unlimited DB's"

Still, I must say, these companies are great, because without them, customers wouldnt appreciate the level of service a GREAT company can provide as there wouldnt be anything to measure against.

Aesir · Apr 19th, 2008, 13:08

here is what I decided to go with
http://www.webhosting.uk.com/