100GB Host that supports PHP and Java

Hello all,

New to this forum , just wanted to ask a simple but annoying question because I've been trying to find an appropriate host for quite some time now.

Has anyone come across a web host that offers PHP support and Java support (JDK 1.5.0 optional) and that has a storage size of 100GB? Plus one that is reliable which has no down time and one that you can upgrade in terms of storage maybe to 2TB!

I've seriously been looking for ages and cant find a thing, its probably my requirements are too defined. I've tried looking at hosts that offer services to small/medium/large business but nothing!

Oh yeah price. As cheap as possible .

Would really appreciate any replies/

looking at that you might have to get you a Dedicated or VPS (Virtual Private Server) Then install the JDK yourself... If you want 100GB (which I couldn't imagine why anyone would....) then your traffic will be pushing it on a shared server anyways.

Lots of companies offer Dedicated Servers, but you have to ask them if you can install the JDK on it. Hope that helps..

Java is client-side so ... you won't find a server that "has" that. It's the people viewing your site that needs it on their computers. So ... you can stop looking for that

Any why do you need 100GB! of space?!! If you don't mind me asking?

Java is server side... Its called JSP and it has to have the JDK installed on the server running it.

Really? Hmm...

Thanks for the replies!

NoobSmith: I think i might have to read up on VPS! I'm new to that. I am interested on what you said about traffic on a shared served. Could you elaborate please?

Because i thought that the declared space that you buy froma host which i want 100GB of comes with a bandwidth of something like 1TB which i am guessing will be enough for the traffic...? Am i right....?

Karinne: You can get JDK on web hosts, there are hosts that are specifically designed for java support.

The following is from this url: http://www.webhostingjava.net/ (at the bottom in the scrollbar):

"Java Web Hosting services with JDK 1.5.0 and Tomcat 4.1.34 & Tomcat 5.5.20 support from $4.00/month."

I think i would need support for J2EE & JSP.

Reason I need 100GB is because i have been given the task to help make a web site for an existing company that I work for. (The thing is i am a little rusty and my web development days are quite far behind!).

Thanks in advance for more replies.

Ok, just got done talking to my web host about this matter and they said that they are no longer even supplying JSP on their shared servers because of the huge file sizes. So... if you would like you can install it yourself on your own VPS with them. They are American based so you probably want to find it somewhere in the UK to give you a better connection for you and your clients. But this I have found is becoming a problem everywhere with shared server plans...

To let you know about file sizes and such, I have a website that I do and it is a HUMOUNGOUS site. It is 1 Large Dealership Catalog and then every dealership has its own POS catalog underneath that site as well. The catalog holds about 220,000 images in 2 sizes (so a total of 440,000 images) and thats not including the design images. But, its total size is only 30GB thats why I said I didn't see the need for more than 100GB unless you were hosting .exe's and such.

That is a huge site!

I will be hosting a lot of Java applets that also contain images and videos. The site will hold some videos for its own advertising and other companies. This site will also be holding user information for log ins etc and much more which i cant think of now!

Come to think of it, it would be a good idea to get a smaller storage space with a host that offers upgrades to larger storage sizes. At least there won't be a hefty initial fee at the beginning.

Off topic Question: Since we are talking about size, i have had this question for some time, when facebook and youtube and even Google launched their web sites they all bought their own servers. Why? Google i remember spent like a 100 Grand! Oh yeah youtube is currently using 20TB of space! I wonder how much that costs!

They own their own servers so it costs them hardly anything to maintain them... By the way, YouTube is Google now! By having your own server you can upgrade it, downgrade it, maintain it, add security to it, and all kinds of stuff. And google definately wanted to do that. Google if they need 1TB of more space all they have to do is go to thier server, open it up and slide in some drives. Then they are done, they don't have to file a request, pay for the drive over and over again each month, and then get it... Nope, they just buy the hardware, plug it in and go.

Oh yeah the 2 billion buy out!

Just been looking at some servers they are really expensive but i guess its a one off cost, but then you have to keep it switched on. Bills. But at least its as reliable as the person that owns it.

In a host, do you think reliability is more important than support?

definately not. Both are just as important.

Definately agree. What good is one without the other?

Some web hosts say that their "up time" is 99.9% of the time and they provide 24/7 support. However there are some websites that offer 100% up time but they don't mention support as being "24/7". I asked this question because it seems that some host's can't offer both! But of course it would great to have both.

Having a look at the VPS - one word, costly! I still can't find something that fits my requirements. Those that do are expensive! There must be one out there i just have to keep "Googling"!

Well as far as webhosts go, if you see that they offer 100% uptime guarantee you can guarentee they are lying. No webserver doesn't go down from time to time, especially when they need restarts... never go with someone that promises something they can't give you.

Also, when thinking about a webhost call the support and talk to them about your purchase. If you call 2 different times and you get someone you can't understand, or if your web host doesn't offer phone support, don't use them. Even if you won't use phone support, no good hosting company won't have a call center.

Also, 24/7 support may sound like you'll get help 24/7, but (as with onedollarhost.net) this simply means they will take your request 24/7 and they will be glad to get your request replied to within 2 weeks...

Just some info... ohh and if you find a site that you like you can always call them and ask about setting up a special package just for you. Most hosts will do this but they will charge you a lil extra.

Thats a good point, i can't believe some advertise like that and give false promises. They will loose credibility with the existing customers they have!

LOL - that is sneaky!

That is some good advice, best I've had in a while. Your right since payment for a service is been made i need to make sure i get the best from those offering the service. In other words, scout around!

Hmmm, you are looking at a lot of space there. If I were you I would recommend taking a look at site5.com.

They have a $5 dollar plan that will knock your socks off. Which can be found here. I have no idea wither they support Java though. As for the company, they have excellent support, trust me...I have used them! Their email support normally has fixed the issue within about 5 min...no joke! I use them, Ryan Fait uses them...they have super fast servers and are great!!

If you really think you are going to need that 100GB space, I would email site5 and ask them about a dedicated server. This is going to be expensive, but you would be able to have root access, and would be able to install anything you want...yourself! Price wise you are looking at about $100 to well billions per month. Another great company for dedicated servers is hostgator.com, check them out as well.

I have been with them for over 2 years now, great support, and super fast servers. Any way these are the companies I found to be the best...well unless you have the resources to build and maintain your own servers.

Try mediatemple. They are well used and come highly reccomended. They have a grid server option which is a brilliant i dea in my opinion but works in the same way as a shared server. Their $20/month plan comes with 100gb of storage and 1tb of bandwidth. Apparently they are very reliable I don't know for sure though. Here is their grid server option anyway.

Pete.

JacobHaug: It knocked more than my socks off! I hope this isn't a limited time offer. It has everything i need apart from the Java support. Will email them and ask if they can do something. (maybe with their dedicated server).

pa007: Actually this was recommended to me too! - But there offer of 100GB for the $20 is quite a rip off since I've seen much cheaper. Also "1 TB of short-path bandwidth" what does the short-path mean?! Is there a long path?!

I also had this recommended to me which is very good in price but I'm not so keen on the image (there are several but one with a guy taking down a pint - wonder how useful he'll be during a crisis): http://www.dreamhost.com what do you think?

Dreamhost...I hated there cpanel. It was just stupid no where near as good as the true cpanel and whm.

Well I think the thing with the mediatemple thing is that firstly it's not a shared server and it you cannot really compare it to one, it's grid server is one of the best shared server style options I've seen from a host, it certainly looks far more reliable in the long run and has numerous advantages over a standard shared server. Another reason why I would be willing to pay the price is the quality. They come highly recommended to me and I have heard their customer service is impeccable. So I'd be more than willing to pay that price.

And funnily enough I am actually about to open an account with media temple. I've been actively researching hosts for the past 2 months or so and it was a toss up between media temple, site 5 and dreamhost. I wasn't impressed with dreamhost particularly and site 5 doesn't settle with me. I know ryan and jacob recomend them but in particular I didn't like some of the comments in their faq - something along the lines of 'if it exists we've probably got it on our servers', sounds a little arrogant to me. So I'm going with media temple. I'm especially taken by their ruby support as my next project is gonna be a ruby one, which is all quite exciting. So they are my reasons but you will naturally have different requirements than me.

Oh and as for shortpath bandwidth:
Oh and my decision to go with media temple is totally illogical, it was more that I just didn't like the other hosts rather than them actually being poor in any way.


Pete.