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Hi,

Just converted this site from tables and Transitional html to Strict and CSS, it's not 100% complete but I'd like some feedback on how it works on your system. I don't have access to IE (ptur!) but I suppose it must be tested in that non-the-less. I have also converted from javascript to CSS roll-overs on the category selection buttons, quite chuffed that I got that to work Knowing IE, it will be broken in that browser though.



I am going to add click-through linking to larger format images, this has not been implemented yet but will be adding that next (might even be done by the time you read this, but right now I need a break).

Here it is:
http://www.jonathanmortimer.co.uk/test2

I have tested in Firefox and Safari. I have not validated it yet. Any comments on style are also welcome

Thanks!

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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

Hi Jonny,

The Critique is broken at the moment because of the upgrade, so you need to post your address
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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

Ignore the colours on the contact page form, that was just me experimenting.
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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

It is broken in IE6. (What isn't?)

The transparent PNGs have a light blue outline instead of transparency, and there's a lot of flicker when the images switch.

And I receive an "unknown runtime error" from JavaScript when clicking on portfolio pages in the bottom nav bar.
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It is broken in IE6. (What isn't?)

The transparent PNGs have a light blue outline instead of transparency, and there's a lot of flicker when the images switch.

And I receive an "unknown runtime error" from JavaScript when clicking on portfolio pages in the bottom nav bar.
Thanks for the feedback. Typical bloody IE! I would be interested to know if my nature site works for you - http://www.jonathanmortimer.co.uk/nature
It uses the same javascript technology.

If anyone has any suggestions why this does not work in IE, please do tell! Perhaps I should ask this in the Javascript forum.
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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

I'm using the Virtual PC version of IE 6 (the version Microsoft distributes for testing web pages), so it might actually work in a real version of IE 6.

But for me, the nature site has the same "unknown runtime error" problem.
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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

To sort out your transparency issue in ie6 use the pngfix.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pngtestfixed.htm

Can't help with the javascript error though.

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To sort out your transparency issue in ie6 use the pngfix.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pngtestfixed.htm
Thanks, though when I tried to incorporate this to my pages it didn't do anything, it could be because I have not set width and height for my PNG images but I don't know how to do that when using the CSS background (url) method.
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OK, I cheated and placed a white background on my PNG's. One IE failing down, several dozen to go..

One thing I don't understand is why my CSS is broken in IE wrt underlined links.. anybody?
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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

Don't cheat

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#test {
background: url(images/blahblah.png) no-repeat;
width:whateverpx;
height:whateverpx;
}

#test {
background: transparent;
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader (src='images/blahblah.png', sizingMethod='scale');
}
And what specifically are you having issues with underlined links? It helps if you explain your problem in detail rather than some broad question.
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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

your contact page failed validation

And html tidy only found 10 warnings, if you don't have the html tidy plugin for firefox i highly reccomend you getting it

HTML TIDY REPORTS:

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line 84 column 12 - Warning: <img> attribute "width" has invalid value "97px"
line 84 column 12 - Warning: <img> attribute "height" has invalid value "76px"
line 89 column 12 - Warning: <img> attribute "width" has invalid value "97px"
line 89 column 12 - Warning: <img> attribute "height" has invalid value "76px"
line 94 column 10 - Warning: <img> attribute "width" has invalid value "97px"
line 94 column 10 - Warning: <img> attribute "height" has invalid value "76px"
line 98 column 10 - Warning: <img> attribute "width" has invalid value "97px"
line 98 column 10 - Warning: <img> attribute "height" has invalid value "76px"
line 104 column 10 - Warning: <img> attribute "width" has invalid value "97px"
line 104 column 10 - Warning: <img> attribute "height" has invalid value "76px"
<img> attribute "width" has invalid value "740px" HTML width and height attributes do not need "px"; their units are always assumed to be pixels.


Incorrect: <img src="example.png" alt="Example" width="740px" height="40px" />

Correct
: <img src="example.png" alt="Example" width="740" height="40" />



Other than that runs perfectly fine in firefox, launchin IE will crash my pc so i'll leave that to other people to do

Just my input... hope it's in someway helpful
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thats in regards to the pages with the gallerys, it's nothing important, passes validation either way W3C don't regard it as important.
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Don't cheat

And what specifically are you having issues with underlinks? It helps if you explain your problem in detail rather than some broad question.
Thanks for the advice! I will try and use that code once I've sorted out the javascript problem (featuring exclusively in an IE near you! )

I seem to have fixed the css underline links problem now, just a CSS thing that IE didn't handle properly.

I also sorted my pages so that they all validate (well, all except the one with a form on it, I will look at that another day) and so does the CSS.
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your contact page failed validation

Incorrect: <img src="example.png" alt="Example" width="740px" height="40px" />

Correct
: <img src="example.png" alt="Example" width="740" height="40" />
I never knew about the px thing, thanks

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Other than that runs perfectly fine in firefox, launchin IE will crash my pc so i'll leave that to other people to do
I remembered I can run WinXP and IE 6 in Qemu on my Mac, it's slow but it does the job (eventually).
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Don't cheat

Code: Select all
#test {
background: url(images/blahblah.png) no-repeat;
width:whateverpx;
height:whateverpx;
}

#test {
background: transparent;
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader (src='images/blahblah.png', sizingMethod='scale');
}
OK, I don't understand changing the background to transparent, that just gets rid of my image completely in Firefox and Safari.
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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

in which case just you could just wrap it in a conditional comment.

there are dozens of articles on the png hack, some offering different methods

A conditional comment

Quote:
<!--[if IE 6]>
Special instructions for IE 6 here
<![endif]-->

Although they validate, and work, they're still not the best way to go.

There are dozens of articles on why not to use them, and others on how to implement them so people are split on wether to use them or not.

They're really just a quick fix, there are alternatives to fixing problems that often take longer, but conditional comments

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#test {
background: url(images/blahblah.png) no-repeat;
width:whateverpx;
height:whateverpx;
}

<!--[if IE 6]>
#test {
background: transparent;
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader (src='images/blahblah.png', sizingMethod='scale');
}
<![endif]-->
If you google it, you'll end up trawling through hundreds of articles on different fixes. Most involve conditional comments, some javascript and some take other approaches.
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Re: Would really appreciate testers!

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OK, I don't understand changing the background to transparent, that just gets rid of my image completely in Firefox and Safari.
Very strange. Thats copied directly from a website I've done recently and I have no issues in either FF or Safari
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OK, I've made quite a few changes in the code, tried some things, got some help, and generally (hopefully) improved the overall performance. Will think about transparent PNG's in IE later, but for now I would appreciate feedback on the site, how it looks, how it works, etc. Content too, but to a lesser extent.



Oh, PS, I need to add some roll-overs and/or click-throughs in the Graphic section, but that's a whole new can of worms

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Wow i like your photographs

Especially the B&W ones are they film?

i don't see anything wrong with the site personally.

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I have a keen interest in art and like trying out different mediums, currently I am experimenting with film photography, working on my web design skills, and also teaching myself graphic marker technique.
I feel it should be

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I have a keen interest in art and like trying out different mediums; I am currently experimenting with film photography, web design, and also teaching myself to use the graphic marker technique.
However i was never that good at english, and also what is "graphic marker technique" ? just out of curiosity.
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Wow i like your photographs

Especially the B&W ones are they film?
Thanks, I developed them myself from negatives. Photo developers don't do b&w very well unless you pay a small fortune, their machines are designed for colour. My local college has a dark room so I can just go there for free as I'm an ex-student.

As for the english, I think either works but thanks for looking

Graphic markers are like very expensive and good felt-tips, used in architectural drawings, rough layouts, etc. People probably just use computers nowadays though, that's not as much fun.

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