How much to charge for this banner?

[tox0tes]

I made a flash banner for a company and I am wondering how much to charge them. Here it is: http://www.danedesigns.com/kickers.html

[JacobHaug]

About $150 - $200.

[BGarner]

Wow,

Your banner looks great, but I'm gonna submit the site the banner is for (paintednikes.com) to the worst website archives!

[tox0tes]

Thanks, I am pretty satisfied with how it looks. Wow, even $150 sounds like a lot considering I only spent 40 minutes on it, but I have no problem getting more money for my work haha. I sent an email to the guy asking for the price, and I'll post it here when he replies.

[tox0tes]

Aw I have some bad news. He just replied and said he would pay $20 for the banner. What should I do??

[JacobHaug]

Well, bargain man...take it from an expert...flash is not cheap. Flash is a multimedia program...and everyone wants it. $20 dollars I would laugh and say forget it. Say you will let it go for $75...min!!

[tox0tes]

More bad news, the guy is an idiot. Here is the conversation we had on YIM after a few back and forth emails:

[19:28] daneiracleous: hey
[19:28] heavykickerscustoms: Hello Dane
[19:28] daneiracleous: I was just going to send you an email
[19:28] heavykickerscustoms: Sorry Again about that
[19:28] daneiracleous: its okay
[19:28] daneiracleous: but I personally think you are making a mistake
[19:28] heavykickerscustoms: we really didn't mean to waste your time
[19:29] daneiracleous: get a quote from any other company and youll see that flash banners go for lots of money
[19:29] daneiracleous: $20 is something youd pay for a static gif or jpg image
[19:29] heavykickerscustoms: I'll Take blame for that because i was suppose to tell you we were paying $20 for the design
[19:30] heavykickerscustoms: We have 3 order completed design that was taking that price
[19:30] heavykickerscustoms: but we picked yours because it had a black background..
[19:30] daneiracleous: Could I see the others?
[19:32] heavykickerscustoms: We are not allowed to share that with you.(We did the same thing for your design when inquired about) Perhaps when we post it on the site you can.
[19:32] daneiracleous: hah ok
[19:32] daneiracleous: I urge you to ask yourself a question
[19:33] daneiracleous: whats better, to pay $20 for a sub-par quality banner that will get you business, or $50 that will get you a whole lot more business?
[19:33] daneiracleous: also considering you sell your products for a hefty amount
[19:33] daneiracleous: one more product sold is another 100 or so dollars
[19:33] daneiracleous: and 1 more visitor to your web site means a little more chance that youll get more business
[19:35] heavykickerscustoms: Actually, there was just one other design that is as good as yours..I can honestly say the other 2 were low quality
[19:35] heavykickerscustoms: Thank you very much again..
[19:36] heavykickerscustoms: I guess we'll chat with you later when we want our site upgraded

[JacobHaug]

hahaha...did he buy the banner...cause at the end he said he would chat with you when he wants his website upgraded?

[tox0tes]

Yeah I ended up giving in because it wasnt worth it discussing the price for an hour. He payed me $20 for the banner and promised that I would be the one he will go to when he needs his web site redesigned. $20 is better than nothing at all, right? Especially since I already made the banner and it wouldnt go to use otherwise.

[JacobHaug]

Yeah, but when you go to design his website, make sure you get a price before hand. You need to make sure you are making at least $25 dollars an hour...otherwise in my opinion it is not worth doing the job.

[tox0tes]

check this out....he found this thread and sent me a YIM message:

Session Start (daneiracleous:heavykickerscustoms): Sat Feb 24 09:36:49 2007
[09:36] heavykickerscustoms: hello.. [Offline Message (Fri Feb 23 22:31:27 2007)]
[09:36] heavykickerscustoms: wow this is fuuny!! [Offline Message (Fri Feb 23 22:31:40 2007)]
[09:36] heavykickerscustoms: (Link: http://www.webforumz.com/flash-forum....htm#post80270

[JacobHaug]

hahaha...maybe he will pay you what you are worth...lol