Help with a script please

lol.. Wow.. That is pathetic isn't it? :wink:

I'm sorry, but since when has it been default for IE not to accept cookies?

If you mean the first time you use cookies, when it pops up with the dialog box "This site uses cookies, blah blah blah, do you want to enable them?". I don't remember seeing that for years. Well many sites that use cookies have entire FAQ sections on what they are, the fact that they should be enabled and more sites still, will not function unless you use cookies.

I do not believe that 50% of internet users do not use cookies.

It's very difficult to find usage statistics for this, but here's one site. If anyone can find more then that would be helpful:
http://stat.geres.ge/geonet/report.h...mCO&mid=200403


Oh and it now looks like more people are using 1024x768, but many still use 800x600:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
My question is: HOW?! [:P]

Ohh, I figured something out about W3schools stats that throw them off big time. Those are stats based on their site... Which means, most people they have are designers, and most designers know how to change thier settings... Goodbye Stats being anything close to reality... DANGIT!!! CANT THERE JUST BE 1 POLL THAT TELLS US ABOUT EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLDS PC!!!!! hehe..

Court Jester....

Cookies are ENABLED by default in IE!

Where the hell do you get your supposed 'facts' ?

Go back to <s>la-la</s> linux land and you may at least know what your on about with Konqueror!

Here are the Facts:-

<div style="background-color:Yellow; padding:5px; color:red">The default setting in IE 6 allows a "first-party" cookie to be set, meaning that if a person visits Yahoo the browser will accept a cookie from Yahoo.

However, "third-party" cookies--most often set by marketers or ad networks to track consumer response to promotions--will be allowed through IE 6 default settings only if the third party allows consumers to opt out of data-collection practices. If the company doesn't give consumers an option, the cookie will be blocked. </div>

In other words Court Jester, standard cookies that a site sets are 100% accepted by IE6 UNLESS people have changed from default settings.

<font color="green">Rob thinks Court Jester often speaks before checking **real** facts.</font id="green">

Here are some more interesting 'FACTS' from March 2004:-

Only 6% of web surfers either do not have, or have disabled javascript.

92% of web surfers have java enabled.

Win XP Users 48%
Win 98 users 26%
Win 2000 users 17%

1024x768 users 47%
800x600 users 39%
1280x1024 users 5%

Color Depth:-
32bit (True Color) 56%
16bit 33%
24bit 7%

Just thought someone may be interested.

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where are those stats from?

Actually, they are from thecounter.com

That site has thousands of counters siting on a broad range of sites from personal to large business... all collecting stats from millions of all types of users. Thecounter.com I believe gives a much more accurate statistic, although still does not get around those users who go via a caching server.

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cool, thanks

I dont believe statistics anymore sorry Rob. As Of March 2004, on one site it's 78% JavaScript Enabled Visitors, another 98%, and then another only 27%... Repeat visitors can throw statistics off, so in reality statistics can neveer be accurate nor can they be precise.. The only way we can truly ever know is if we go around asking everyone and get them to write it down... I don't know about your country, or yalls states, but where I am from it is a HUGE deal to buy this software called Cookie Stop. What it does it doesnt allow any cookies for any reason, and it has a Built-in Spyware blocker and remover. Just about everyone I know has it, and when I ask them to test out my cookie enabled projects, they can't cause thier cookie-stop won't allow it.

I dont think its that I dont know what I am talking about, nor do I find that yall don't know what you are talking about... But you have to remember this very important thing.. We all share the internet, yes that is true... but I design for people where I live, and I have to design to best fit Browsers from people where I live.. I dont give a care if it looks good to you, but then 80% of the people Im designing for can't see it... What I am saying is that Area Polls are much more important than any Website's Statistics...

I don't see how site-specific site cookies can be bothersome to you? In fact most of the cookies I use are a huge help - Remembering login values, etc. Like this site. If I disbaled cookies I would have to login continuously, so I'm very happy for having them. A piece of software which blocked cookies would be useless to me. Cookies are nowhere as near as dangerous as spyware.

Court Jester, maybe you should try and educate the people in your area about the good things cookies can do, as pointed out by Sirkent above. There is no need for those people to be so overly paranoid, I guess they dont know any better. Just show them that with the right privacy settings its safe to surf the internet and enjoy the benefits of having cookies enabled.

As far as I see it, you only need worry about 3rd party cookies (ad-networks), and even then, most info gathered is anonymous.

Isnt it ironic that some people block cookies, block pop-ups, javascript, etc... yet don't install the latest patches and download the latest virus patern files (if they even have a virus application). Most of the people too wont be running a firewall.

So, the same un-educated (in this matter), paranoid, cookie-moaning web nOObies are often sitting there unknowingly routing all the crap emails we receive and acting as a plaform from which to send loads more viruses to people like us.

So... the thing is, far more worry and action need to be put into securing up systems, rather than blocking the very technologies that allow useful websites to work.

Cookies are here to stay.... 3rd party cookies may indeed be phased out over time, but cookies are the only SAFE way of storing managed data on the client for the benfit of his / her browsing experience.

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I agree. I never think about cookies as a security risk (or javascript for that matter... I use Opera [:P]). I can't even remember the last time I thought about them in that way - yet I recently purchased new AV protection and a new firewall and occassionally I worry about spyware, but even that isn't a serious problem, just a minor inconvenience - personally I think spam is worse.

What spam prevention tools do you use?

I use Cloudmark Spamnet, its not bad at all: http://www.cloudmark.com/