Thanks for that,

However, im having a slightly annoying problem that i could do with another brain to suggest a reason fo if u dont mind.

I've removed those rollover immages from the navbar for the moment, and, i have added a <ul>....</ul> ... the problem is that no matter what i try, poke, fiddle or mess with i cant get the items in the list to line up with the left hand edge of the <div> ....... probably something silly.... but id appreciate you thoughts as allways.