Who Is Right or Wrong ?

"telling a webdesigner to use Internet Explorer is like like swearing in church"..

and the reason why, because in both cases the boss would bollock you for it

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i thinks i.e is more meticulous with codes than others. You can see whatever you do with codes with i.e. if you are succesfull. But with others your chance maybe not.

The unfortunate thing is that we do have to compensate for those who dont have firefox, opera, or safarii so we as coders have to devise new ways to hack ie and make what we want to work work.... thats the way its always gonna be...

You have to understand that there's history that distorts comments on browsers, primarily residual resentment at Microsoft's heavy-handed attempts to monopolize web-browsing. Its non-compliance with W3c standards was largely intentional: It intended to subvert the standards by abusing its market power, to the end that Internet Explorer would be the ONLY mainstream web browser.

The courts and the web development community broke MS's back, largely through Gecko/Mozilla/Firefox. Since then, MS has had to concentrate on developing a good standards-compliant browser or else suffer its own extinction. But the affair left behind a lot of well-deserved distrust and resentment of IE.

As between Firefox and IE7, I think their strengths and weaknesses reflect how they were created. Firefox, being the creature of geeks doing what they want, tends to concentrate on cutting-edge technology and the newest standards/features. IE7, being a consumer product, tends to focus on better implementation of mainstream technologies.

So IE7 is now, at least arguably, less buggy for HTML 4.01, CSS 1, and even the more fundamental rendering of XHTML 1.0. Firefox is way ahead in CSS 2.1, CSS 3 and DOM -- FF is working on compliance with DOM3 while IE7 is still struggling to perfect DOM1 standards compliance. (IE7 actually does do an "okay" job with XSLT although XLST is technically part of the DOM3 standards.)

Er...

IE7 does not support XHTML at all.

I'm also curious about how IE7 is "arguably less buggy for HTML 4.01 and CSS 1". You say it's arguable, so I'd like to hear the argument.

I agree that FF is somehow the closest when it comes to web standard. I'm using joomla and it runs smoothly in FF. But in IE, eerrrr....

hmmm, i wonder if IE8 is going to change anyones opinions lol

Let us hope for the best...