ok, got me half way to my goal. I deleted the position lines, added the wrapper header code and started the wrapper and ended it just inside the <body> and </body>. The page stays centered but all of the div sections from before are vertically one right after another.
i just started editing one of my temp files so if something bad happened it wouldnt matter too much here is the link
http://www.stevesdealpage.com/storetemp.php
I tried deleting the left and top also but it didnt work.
thanks for the help too. I only know a little
html but making programs for engineering classes helps me figure out what the heck everything is trying to do. (I have no clue what the programming languages are that we learned, it was using matlab mostly.) Having a idea of what is going on is helping since the website uses some open code here and there while allowing me to do some deeper editing than most beginners can do.