I know WC4 (or any other wysiwyg) leaves a lot to be desired, so I've abandoned my personal site until I learn to do it "from scratch". I really do believe it's best to know how to use html/css to build a clean, efficient site. But, I also know what it's like to run a small business on a tight budget with not enough hours in the day to get everything done. For the time being, this is better (for JewelWillow's business) than no web presence at all. Most customers don't care to check the code behind the site. Even if she does want to learn to do it herself, her business won't be off-line while she's learning how, and she can replace the WC4 site when she's ready. I hope that's not too evil - I don't want to be found guilty of promoting sinful coding! Well, I've got to replace the graphics card on my computer now, so that's it for me. JewelWillow - what do you think? I'll talk to you all later!